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March 12, 2008, 09:53:51 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2008, 09:53:51 AM »
I haven't a clue what to do about a recovery move.

Bomb jump?

March 12, 2008, 09:55:11 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2008, 09:55:11 AM »
Huh, of course. Can't believe I didn't think of that. The thing where he tosses a bomb downward to push himself up further, right?

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March 12, 2008, 12:44:56 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2008, 12:44:56 PM »
Pac-Man would have been pretty cool. And feasible, considering Namco & Nintendo's other joint ventures.

...his Final Smash would totally be a power pellet


March 12, 2008, 03:28:56 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2008, 03:28:56 PM »
I dunno, H, I just remembered he had a move called Bomb Jump in at least one game.  I honestly have no clue what it's actually like, or if it's consistent across games or anything.

The Power Pellet should totally act the way it did in Pac-Man 2.

March 12, 2008, 04:37:44 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2008, 04:37:44 PM »
I dunno, H, I just remembered he had a move called Bomb Jump in at least one game.  I honestly have no clue what it's actually like, or if it's consistent across games or anything.

The Power Pellet should totally act the way it did in Pac-Man 2.

If memory serves the Bomb Jump was just the ability to bounce a bomb off of another bomb.... but seriously.... None of you played Wario Blast when you were young? Although, I also played Pac-Man 2 when I was young and DAMN that's tempting, but wouldn't Super Pac-Man just be a ripoff of Wario-Man if he were in Brawl.
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March 13, 2008, 11:00:32 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2008, 11:00:32 PM »
pigma


But seriously, I'd like to see Belmonts, or other characters from Castlevania. Or in my wildest dreams, Suikoden characters. It's still Konami ;.;

March 14, 2008, 07:38:01 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2008, 07:38:01 AM »
If Sonic returns for the next Smash Bros., I really hope Tails gets in as well.

Very fast character, amazing recovery, but very light.

Tornado Biplane as final smash.

March 14, 2008, 10:20:31 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2008, 10:20:31 AM »
Or in my wildest dreams, Suikoden characters.

I just with they'd make a fighting spinoff. They would be awesome in a 2d fighter.
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March 14, 2008, 01:35:47 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2008, 01:35:47 PM »
Phoenix Wright.  I've even worked out how he works.  Phoenix fights with evidence.  Instead of a portrait, he has a little icon of his currently selected piece of evidence next to his percentage.  At the start of the match, it displays Maya's Magatama, which means he has no evidence at all.

B: Present.  Nick attacks using whatever piece of evidence he's currently holding in his left hand.  For the Magatama this is a punch.
->B: Press.  Nick shouts "Hold It!" and makes a "slamming the desk" motion.  This stuns enemies and does a bit of damage as well.
^B: Air Tank.  Nick rides into the air, trailing behind Larry's air tank.  After a second he loses his grip and starts falling, but the air tank keeps going until it hits a surface or leaves the stage.
vB: Court Record.  Swaps out Nick's current piece of evidence for a new one, randomly selected from various options (and never the same one he already has), such as:
-Autopsy report (works similiarly to the paper fan; not that it matters, but this one in particular is for Bruce Goodman)
-The Thinker clock
-DL-6 pistol
-Kurain Urn (thrown; naturally, it shatters on impact)
-Gatewater Hotel knife
-MC Bomber CD (thrown; does minimal damage, but scrambles affected character's controls briefly)
-Can't remember the name, the weird sword from 3-5

Final Smash: Psyche-Lock
Nick shouts "Take That!"  The background inverts colors and fades to black, while chains launch into the screen.  Any enemies hit by the chains are dragged into the Psyche-Locks that appear.  Player can now mash buttons to damage everyone inside.  After a while, they shatter (doing one final hit of damage that can potentially KO), the chains depart, "Unlock Successful" appears onscreen, and Nick recovers by 50%.  Locks can be damaged, potentially making them break early, by characters inside pressing the same button as Nick.

One taunt consists of Phoenix pointing and shouting "Objection!"

One of his alternate color schemes gives him Furio Tigre's suit.

Series symbol is the attorney's badge.

Associated assist trophies include the Steel Samurai, both von Karmas, Detective Gumshoe, and the Blue Badger.

March 14, 2008, 01:48:13 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2008, 01:48:13 PM »
While I'm at it, a while back I worked out a moveset for Mega Man.  (Need to come up with two more taunts for him, though.)

His color scheme from the neck down changes to a color scheme for whatever weapon you have selected (Mega Buster color scheme is whatever you picked for him).  His helmet doesn't change this way, though, so that you can tell Mega Men apart.

Taunt: Pose like in MM7 intro stage.
LR Shield: Leaf Shield.
Z Shield: Junk Shield.
A combo: Generic punch, generic kick, Slash Claw.
Running A: Charge Kick.
Forward A: That weird buster-punch Protoman does in Power Fighters. Smaller, though.
Forward Smash: Flame Sword.
Upward A: Rolling Cutter (moves over a small arc while spinning).
Upward Smash: Wire Adapter (with, obviously, reduced range).
Downward A: Ring Boomerang (but not boomerang anymore, just smacking them with the ring)
Downward Smash: Silver Tomahawk (not thrown, just held).
Aerial A: Power Stone (range reduced, speed increased).
Aerial Down+A: Top Spin.
Aerial Up+A: That fire punch thing he does in Power Fighters.
Aerial Forward+A: Shadow Blade (range reduced slightly).
Aerial Back+A: Knight Crush (swung backward, across body--effective range matches Shadow Blade).
B: Mega Buster. Or not--see Down+B.
Forward+B: Crash Bomb. Moves on an arc, like in Power Battle. Latches onto enemies and explodes a second later, or latches onto surfaces and acts like a motion sensor bomb.
Up+B: Rush Jet. Go up at a steep angle. Knocks enemies aside but doesn't do a lot of damage unless they manage to get hit by the flames.
Down+B: Switch weapon. Initially this does nothing. After you've KOed at least one opponent (or certain stage enemies), you can switch between the Mega Buster and the B moves of characters you've defeated. They go in player order, including Mega Man himself (but you don't automatically switch weapons or anything). Suit changes color to indicate selected weapon.
Grab: Super Arm. (In color only, really.)
Forward Throw: Super Arm, moreso.
Upward Throw: Thunder Beam right into opponent, shooting them up.
Downward Throw: Throw opponent down on ground and use Star Crash on top of them. Stars all slam into them.
Backward Throw: Fire a Remote Mine onto opponent and simultaneously throw.
Final Smash: Yellow Devil. Mega Man teleports out, and the Yellow Devil forms (pieces flying in from the left or right, whichever's closer) and becomes controllable for some time. After time expires (or Yellow Devil takes some insane amount of damage to the eye), "melts" and "dries up" and Mega Man teleports back in.

I guess his icon would be his helmet--every series except original has an obvious symbol.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2008, 01:50:17 PM by Yes! Andrusi 5GoGo »

March 14, 2008, 05:25:52 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2008, 05:25:52 PM »
What about the Wily symbol? Sure, it wouldn't fit him due to his being a Light robot, but it's recognizeable!

March 14, 2008, 05:56:22 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2008, 05:56:22 PM »
So what happens when he beats Kirby?


I imagined Mega's FS to be a Rush suit thingy, but the Yellow Devil's not bad.

March 14, 2008, 07:57:08 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2008, 07:57:08 PM »
Or in my wildest dreams, Suikoden characters.

I just with they'd make a fighting spinoff. They would be awesome in a 2d fighter.
yeah, i'd fucking love that. BUT SUIKODEN DISCUSSIONS ARE FOR ANOTHER TOPIC


March 14, 2008, 10:50:43 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2008, 10:50:43 PM »
I was thinking that Megaman could only briefly change colors while using an enemy's attack, then go back to his default colors.

March 15, 2008, 12:32:01 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2008, 12:32:01 AM »
People would probably hate me for saying this: But I think playable Shadow might be cool.   But only if Tails and Knuckles are already in there.  If it comes down to a choice, I would rather have the original trio than any of the newer characters.

Shadow was one of my favorite characters in Sonic Battle, though.  His chaos attacks were pretty neat, and he made for a nice in between spot between Sonic and Knuckles for the speed/strength ratio.
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March 15, 2008, 01:12:24 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2008, 01:12:24 AM »
Dante from Devil May Cry with Rebellion, Cerberus, Beowulf, Lucifer, Pandora's Box, and Nevan.

Standard Attack: Combo (Rebellion)
Running Attack: Stinger (Rebellion)

Tilt Forward: Kick (Beowulf)
Tilt Up: Flicker (Cerberus)
Tilt Down: Windmill (Cerberus)

Forward Smash: Prop Shredder (Rebellion)
Up Smash: Ice Age (Cerberus)
Down Smash: Volcano (Beowulf)

Air Standard: Air Rave (Rebellion)
Air Forward : Revolver (Cerberus)
Air Back: Swing (Cerberus)
Air Up: Helm Splitter (Rebellion)
Air Down: Killer Bee (Beowulf)

Standard Special: Round Trip (Rebellion)
Forward Special: Lucifer (Shoot it, they explode after a few seconds)
Up Special: High time (Rebellion)
Down Special: Devil Trigger (Damage over time, no attack damage, can still be launched)

Throw Forward: Drive (Rebellion)
Throw Back: Real Impact (Beowulf)
Throw Up: Rising Dragon (Beowulf)
Throw Down: Million Caratas (Cerberus)

Final Smash: Pandora's Box (Press B to cycle gun, A to shoot)

Taunt Forward: Normal Taunt
Taunt Up: Guitar Riff (Nevan)
Taunt Down: S Rank Taunt

Also a mix of alot of his devil arms from 3 and 4 for his A moves.
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March 15, 2008, 01:17:28 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2008, 01:17:28 AM »
Might as well toss in my ideas. I haven't gotten time to check on who picked out what, but, quite some time ago I made a list of third-party "icons" that I think might fit.

I would think a classic 2D fighter character should get in. I'd imagine either Ryu or Terry Bogard would be most likely, but I kinda also want an SNK boss. People would surely crap their pants if Geese or Rugal showed up.

There are quite a few potential Capcom reps other than Ryu. Megaman surely. Arthur, Strider, Captain Commando... well, yeah, there's a lot to go with there.

I'd like to have a Belmont be in the next Smash - although I don't want to dump Snake. That would let me assume 2 third-party reps, each from a different key franchise, per third-party. (I personally am not a fan of thorwing in an excess amount of Sonic characters Thank You Very Much.) On the note of whatever Sega might have for a second third-party rep, I'd go with something retro and off-the-wall... like Alex Kidd. It'd be better than using anything they currently crap on.

A Dragon Quest character would make Brawl uber epic. I'd go with Loto/Edrick here, as I'd believe he toi be the most iconic non-Slime.

If there's a Square rep, I'd go with Moogle, who has enough of a balance of repping and actual fighting skill. Second choice would be Black MAge.

Stretching things a bit, I'd like Ryu Hayabusa. He'd work both as a tecmo rep and a rep for a 3D fighter (Dead or Alive) that would be a psuedo-"foil" for the 2D fighter person/s.

Hudson's probably already been discussed here. Heh.

After that the third-parties start getting a bit obscure. EA has no original IP that I consider Brawl-worthy yet. Ubisoft could use Rayman or the Prince of Persia. I'd like to see some more retro characters like Riki-Kunio or the Double Dragons but I don't know what ownership disputes they might have. Basically, third parrties start becoming more of a stretch after the ones I already mentioned.

Now, for first-party reps, I'd first go with characters who I thought should've been in Brawl in the first place. Namely:

- Takamaru (Nazo no Murasamejo)
- Little Mac (Punch-Out!!)
- Some Pro Wrestling character (Star Man would get confusing here, so I'd probably go with Fighter Hayabusa, King Slender or The Amazon.)
- Advance Wars character (Probably either Andy from the GBA series, or Will from Days of Ruin.)
- One more Metroid character (Even though the best pick became a Subspace boss, the Prime Hunters and an actual "Dark Samus/Metroid Prime" are fair game.)
- One more Fire Emblem character (although chances are it'd be Roy's return, more or less)
- Some more girls. People've request Lip from Panel De Pon, yes?
- Sukapon. (Joy Mech Fight)
- And maybe as a far stretch, the BS-X mascot. (Except he'd probably be a Link clone?... Damn..)

March 15, 2008, 01:37:12 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2008, 01:37:12 AM »
Bubsy the Bobcat.


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March 15, 2008, 07:28:04 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2008, 07:28:04 AM »
On the bus ride to school, I was actually thinking about how well Bubsy would work in a Smash Bros. game.

We should start a petition.

March 15, 2008, 09:11:58 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2008, 09:11:58 AM »
What could possibly go wrong?

March 15, 2008, 09:42:37 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2008, 09:42:37 AM »
So what happens when he beats Kirby?
I said B moves, but I imagine he'd get slightly different attacks from some characters.  Kirby's up+B, Dedede's down+B, Yoshi's up+B.  The real challenge is figuring out what to do with Sonic.

March 15, 2008, 04:23:00 PM
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« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2008, 04:23:00 PM »
Personally I don't think that dumping a bunch of third party characters into this willy-nilly would be a good thing...

Also, Megaman could copy Kirby's Inhale ability without the ability to copy powers.

March 15, 2008, 04:32:55 PM
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« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2008, 04:32:55 PM »
It'd be wacky if, as a result of the success of Brawl, Nintendo decides to put Sakurai in charge of a Smash Bros. game entirely comprised of third party characters.

March 23, 2008, 03:02:33 PM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2008, 03:02:33 PM »
-Michael Jackson (Moonwalker, Final Smash: Turn Into Giant Robot Spaceship)

-Burger King (Those Burger King games, Final Smash: Flamebroil Everything)

-Megaman (Megaman, Final Smash: Rush Suit)

-Zero (Megaman, Final Smash: Doesn't Lose Lives For A While)

-General Custer (General Custer's Revenge, Final Smash: (censored))

-Samurai Goroh (F-Zero, Final Smash: Weaker car, but you can aim it)

-Knuckles (Sonic, Final Smash: Dig and come up under something)

-Pitfall Guy (Pitfall, Final Smash: Swing over something and crocodiles come out)

-Mecha Sonic (Sonic, basically Sonic but slower and stronger)

-Bill Clinton (NBA Jam Tournament Edition, Final Smash: Play Saxophone, immobilizing enemies)

-Ryu (Street Fighter, Final Smash: Shinkuu Hadoken)

March 24, 2008, 12:30:50 AM
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Re: Characters that should be in the next Smash Bros
« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2008, 12:30:50 AM »
Shadow was one of my favorite characters in Sonic Battle, though.  His chaos attacks were pretty neat, and he made for a nice in between spot between Sonic and Knuckles for the speed/strength ratio.

I didn't notice this before but yes.  Shadow was great in that and played exactly how I imagined he should.