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March 14, 2008, 05:03:54 AM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2008, 05:03:54 AM »
I'm pretty exclusively Marth. I dabble every now and then, though.

March 14, 2008, 09:49:38 AM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2008, 09:49:38 AM »
Most of the reason I play Dedede is because everyone else plays Sonic XD But I really don't care. Sonic's fun.

The thing about Dedede is that he's kind of the Siegfried of Smash Bros. - he's heavy, yes, but he's actually surprisingly mobile and has excellent recovery. You kind of have to get used to not landing many hits with him, though, because his attacks are slow - but one hit from Dedede is equal to about 6 or 7 hits from someone else, and he can KO people with a good smash attack from as low as 60%.

Try using his up smash more often-- it's his fastest one, and hits all around I find. Also try his normal side+A-- range ftw!
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March 14, 2008, 03:27:18 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2008, 03:27:18 PM »
Most of the reason I play Dedede is because everyone else plays Sonic XD But I really don't care. Sonic's fun.

The thing about Dedede is that he's kind of the Siegfried of Smash Bros. - he's heavy, yes, but he's actually surprisingly mobile and has excellent recovery. You kind of have to get used to not landing many hits with him, though, because his attacks are slow - but one hit from Dedede is equal to about 6 or 7 hits from someone else, and he can KO people with a good smash attack from as low as 60%.

Wasn't I the first one to make the Dedede-Siegfried reference?
I hate Dedede for the above reasons. I just think it's unbalanced to have a heavy character who can KO you so easily with good mobility, high damage resistance, and excellent jump/recovery. Now Matrixx is going to reply that I think every character I get beat with is unbalanced, but my point on this matter is, I think, valid. It seems like what they did with Dedede is make a heavy character, then take away most of the characteristics that make a heavy character balanced and left all the advantages. Even if you have to time his smash attacks, the delay isn't as slow as, say, Ganondorf's SPECIALS, and Dedede's reach is better with that hammer, but one hit of this sort is equal to at least four hits from almost any other character.

More like King Dedecheap.

Edit to Seph's ownage of a rebuttal. I have played a Ganondorf, who's specials seem slower than their Melee iterations. I've also played as Dedede, and the delay isn't as bad as everyone states. I managed to beat Artemus with him, the only time to date, I believe. And I never beat anyone from our group of friends in Brawl, ever. Well, I can beat Rixx like, once every five or six times, but never Art.

I really hope no one replies with "Maybe your just bad at Brawl." Because it's not a matter of that. Playing online I've managed to hold my own. And in our big gaming group I place in the middle of every one most of the time. Allow me to reiterate a point I made in another topic: Before this, I hadn't played SSB in three years.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2008, 04:16:04 PM by Chris »

March 14, 2008, 03:40:13 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2008, 03:40:13 PM »
The delay isn't as slow as Ganondorf's? What? Have you played Ganonfuck? Ganon isn't as fast as he used to be, but Dedede is way slower than Ganon by far.

Seriously. His neutral air takes way too long. His forward smash is the slowest thing ever and he flinches mid-swing if hit even on the hammer. His down smash lacks range. His running attack makes you super-vulnerable. His down+B needs PERFECT timing to hit right (oh and any projectile user kills it). His Up+B is hard to aim, his standard B doesn't have Kirby's suction power (that I've found), and he's not easy to throw with. Oh, and it's easy to break his down-air smash, and in fact most of his air moves are too slow and need to be timed perfectly to work at all.

Find a strategy, seriously dude. Dedede is so far from cheap.

EDIT: I make Dedede sound horrible, don't I? I mean to be fair, his up smash is awesome, and so is his side+B, and his forward+B is great. His recovery, if aimed well, is bloody nice, and it is kind of hard to knock him off the stage. When he does throw, his throws set up nice combos I find. But to say he doesn't have any weakness means you need to step it up. We're not talking Melee Fox-level, here.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2008, 03:42:37 PM by Seph »
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March 14, 2008, 04:19:07 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2008, 04:19:07 PM »
See edits to previous post.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a weakness. It just seems like there's way too much involved to exploit those weaknesses compared to some of the other characters. It seems like his weaknesses aren't really that much of a detriment because it takes so much to get him to a point where his they're actually applicable.

In short Dedede is the fucking Shin Akuma of SSBB.

March 14, 2008, 05:24:49 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2008, 05:24:49 PM »
Try finding a weakness with a Metaknight, I dare you. ;P
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March 14, 2008, 09:21:44 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2008, 09:21:44 PM »
He's light and as such can be KO'd at 60% damage when facing King Dedede.

I'm guessing that was the scenario Rixx was talking about in his post. Also, 19 of his normal A attacks is equal to one Dedede forward smash.

[spoiler]I hate Dedede so much.[/spoiler]
« Last Edit: March 14, 2008, 09:31:31 PM by Chris »

March 14, 2008, 09:26:07 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2008, 09:26:07 PM »

March 15, 2008, 01:39:10 AM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2008, 01:39:10 AM »
Marth was my main in melee so I don't use him as much in Brawl.  The characters I tend to use are  Rob, Toon Link, and Olimar.  I usually use Random most of the time though. 
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March 15, 2008, 03:02:46 AM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2008, 03:02:46 AM »
I main pretty exclusively between Dedede and Sonic.

Shit, what are you, me?

I also mix a Donkey Kong and Yoshi in there.

March 15, 2008, 09:09:44 AM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2008, 09:09:44 AM »

March 15, 2008, 09:39:13 AM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2008, 09:39:13 AM »
Update: Matthew suddenly can reliably kick my ass from here to Venom playing as Wolf.

March 15, 2008, 02:00:53 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2008, 02:00:53 PM »
Also, 19 of his normal A attacks is equal to one Dedede forward smash.

This is the main reason behind why I dislike Meta Knight so much.  None of his attacks really pack a big punch to them, which is what I go for.  It's also a problem with Sonic, but he's too fun to play as for that to be a huge problem.

March 15, 2008, 03:01:29 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2008, 03:01:29 PM »
Wow... up to this point I was using Mario, and in any online Melee, I'd get my ass kicked.

Today, I finally unlocked Sonic. So I went and played some online Melee.

Wow... I'm the one kicking asses now. I'm officially using SonKnuck Sonic!
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March 15, 2008, 03:12:19 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2008, 03:12:19 PM »
Wouldn't that require red fur and green shoes, or for him to be a blue echidna instead?

March 15, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2008, 03:23:36 PM »
He's wearing his spare costume, which is blue.  Obviously.

March 15, 2008, 03:42:09 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2008, 03:42:09 PM »
My friend brought over Brawl lat night, and it's official.

My main is still Fox. I just hate his side b though, it kills me more than the opponent does.
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March 15, 2008, 04:37:22 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2008, 04:37:22 PM »
Man, it's been fun playing friends online. Me and SonKnuck just went at it, with me as Rob and him as Sonic (and another match with me as Ganon). He's got some smooth moves for sure... I was just able to interrupt him enough to squeak by.
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March 15, 2008, 04:38:14 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2008, 04:38:14 PM »
I wish I could play online with you guys... :<

March 15, 2008, 06:09:46 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2008, 06:09:46 PM »
Oh wow... I just had to make that typo! XD

Anyway yeah, had good matches with Seph. I accidently self destructed near the end, totally ran out of the screen, literally.

March 17, 2008, 12:44:11 AM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2008, 12:44:11 AM »
Updating myself, Sonic is my main now. Yeah yeah, I'm so stereotypical, etc. Hey, look, Sonic is the reason I picked up SSBM and learned the game and how I'm actually decent at Brawl. This has been coming for six years now I think I'm allowed to main Sonic.

tip for new Sonic users: use his B moves!
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March 17, 2008, 12:56:59 AM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2008, 12:56:59 AM »
Yes yes... one of the strengths of Sonic is that so many of his moves are spins, and that can make it hard for the other players to see what's coming. You can quite often annoy the hell out of people by simply doing his running A move back and forth, especially when they're at lower damage. As for going in for the kill, yeah, Sonic doesn't have a huge elimination arsenal. I've found his down Smash and up air moves to be fairly good, though. Also, if you're lucky, you can break a smash ball with a foward-air/back-air combo.

March 17, 2008, 01:42:45 AM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2008, 01:42:45 AM »
His forward smash his best finisher, followed by his back-air, then last is his up smash and down smash. His down-air isn't amazingly useful that I've found.
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March 17, 2008, 03:16:31 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #48 on: March 17, 2008, 03:16:31 PM »
I always use the "random" option.
For me, it adds to the fun if I don't know who I'll be playing as until the stage starts!

Yeah. I generally random for multiplayer. When I do select something though, I really like Lucas, Ness, and Sonic, but I enjoy random. Even when I get any of my least favorites, like Ganondorf. He is so slow. I prefer fast characters to slow ones, for sure, for sure.

I wish I could play online with you guys... :<

My Wii still can't get online to anything, Brawl or otherwise.

March 17, 2008, 03:38:25 PM
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Re: So, who do YOU use?
« Reply #49 on: March 17, 2008, 03:38:25 PM »
Stepping up my game a bit, I've pretty much settled on: Samus, Ike, Snake, Peach, G&W.  In that order.